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后期真是超级赛亚人大泛滥，连巴达克这种战力也轻易变成超赛

本帖最后由 仪迷 于 2014-8-22 17:37 编辑

当年连合体都是听桂正和的建议，早在弗篇完结时鸟就说过想不到怎么再提升了，所以说超1之后提升这方面鸟山明是没什么好主意的，去年神与神来个吸神正好让常态和超1大提高变为可能，鸟山明当然就顺水推舟了，毕竟他也不喜欢繁复的造型，不再变下去才是初衷

其实我一直觉得超级塞亚人1 不怎么强

后期赛亚人大甩卖，完全没有艰辛的体验，不过也是剧情需要了

为了让后辈们跟上战斗，结果就借天才之名不断膨胀……可以说迫于无奈吧，不过这种事我真是不喜欢。而且后期也变得依赖变身了，合体也算一种……
老鸟回归超一挺好的，跟我回归本源的的想法不谋而合
也没有什么捧和踩的，思路改变了而已

悟天和特兰克斯变超容易，有可能是悟空和贝吉塔与他们的妻子同房时是用的超塞状态~~~，夫妻之间的情趣嘛~~，然后就变成无心插柳柳成荫了~~

说实话各种超赛状态里最喜欢的还是超2，超1在神与神之前一直感觉实力和头发一样软，人造人篇开始没多久就不够看了；超3感觉长发太累赘，而且把大量的能量浪费在变身上而不是战斗中也是个很大的弊端，更何况超3相比超2提升的实力并不是就天差地别，感觉这种变身的收益不一定抵得上弊病，有点得不偿失。相比之下还是超2的性价比高，攻防速相比超1都提升了不少，但又不是很消耗体力，而且竖直金发加电火花气焰的造型也很帅。

合体是桂正和的提议啊。真是出乎我意料。
我以为老鸟的手法都是，敌方先有什么特点，就在下一时期的我方身上用到。
弗利萨变身分几阶，沙篇就让悟饭变身上再变身，不过那时可能还没有超2的概念。
沙鲁和人造人“合体”变强，布篇就让我方也合体变强。

本帖最后由 仪迷 于 2014-8-24 11:07 编辑

可能吸收毕竟还是特殊的，没能直接想到谁都可以合体吧。
给剧场设计的那些BOSS造型到都像原作BOSS改造的

桂正和建议是大全集6访问提到的
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/transl ... ma-super-interview/
先说了变身成为惯例后很痛苦，当时又没有想到其他提升方法，这时桂玩笑般提到合体.....

Incidentally, what led you to have Goku become a Super Saiyan, or the villains to level up?
I was feeling that there were limits on mere strength, so I was generally always struggling to come up with something. I actually hadn’t planned Goku’s Super Saiyan transformation at all. Then, when I came up with the idea of the Super Saiyan, in order to show that Goku had gained a massive power-up all at once, I thought “there’s no choice but to change his form, too”. But in terms of design, the facial expressions and such would become like the design for a villain. I felt, “I wonder if it’s really OK for him to be like this.” Granted, since his transformation is accompanied by rage, I also thought, “I suppose that part’s fine.” It was a pretty radical concept. With respect to the villains, my editor would say, for instance, “I don’t like this”, and in those circumstances, I’d change it. (laughs) Before long, “they should transform” became the norm, so that was a pain.

Did you consider any other ways for Goku to level up other than going Super Saiyan?
At the time, I didn’t really have the time to come up with multiple ideas, so that wasn’t going to happen.

The concept of fusion is also a form of leveling up. How did that concept come to be?
If I remember correctly, I was talking about how, as a concept, “there’s nothing stronger than a Super Saiyan”, and Katsura-kun (Masakazu Katsura-sensei), who I usually just joke around and say idiotic things with, said, “There’s no choice but for them to fuse, then.” So I said, “Whoa, sometimes even you say something good. It’s the first time you’ve ever made yourself useful.” (laughs) That’s how that plot point was born.

这访问没有这方面的意思吧，超2和3更像是因为想不到好的提升办法才惯例直接升级了

其实鸟山明早就解决了繁复变身的问题 那就是潜力开放  可惜悟饭的人气不行...

潜力开放也不是长久之计，从超神水开始，龙珠里面就有几次潜力开放了，而且只有悟空这次显得比较科学，还有些铺垫（引出巨猿力量），悟饭都是拿混血血统说事（而且还没明说），潜力开放再来几次，那就跟不断变身没什么区别了，变身至少还有个新形象，潜力开放都没什么视觉爆点。

我感觉像是返璞归真，挺好的