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[翻译]布贝常见问题解答

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[翻译]布贝常见问题解答
作者:adimra 翻译:凌心
原文网址http://www.adimra.100megs6.com/bvfaq.html
首发于龙珠天地http://dragonball.lovezhangjin.com


声明:由于凌心英文水平很低,故译文常有错译、漏译或无法译出之现象,故附上原文对照,望英语达人不吝赐教!


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Please note that many of the following questions contain personal opinions and may not be completely accurate. I noticed that these questions regarding Bulma and Vegeta come up a lot and thought I'd try my hand at answering them.
请注意:以下问题包含个人观点,并非绝对正确。我只是收集了大家常问起的关于布尔玛和贝吉塔的问题并尽自己所能去解答。
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Just how did Bulma and Vegeta get together?
问:布尔玛和贝吉塔是怎么凑成一对儿的?
Ah, one of the great mysteries of the universe, this topic has been explored by hundreds of fanfiction writers everywhere. The coming together of Bulma and Vegeta is never actually shown in the Anime or Manga; it is left up to the viewer's imagination. All that is known is that sometime in the three years before the androids attack, they get together long enough to conceive Trunks. Mirai Trunks tells Goku that Bulma and Yaumcha broke up and out of passion and loneliness Bulma and Vegeta got together.
答:哈哈,这可是宇宙中一个非常神秘的话题,世界各地的龙珠fans都在研究它。无论是过去还是未来,布尔玛与贝吉塔的结合都未明显地表现出来,所以只能靠大家的想象了。我们所知道的是:在人造人来袭前的三年准备中他们俩好上了,而且时间够长生出了特兰克斯。未来的特兰克斯告诉悟空说,布尔玛和乐平分手后很失落也很寂寞,所以和贝吉塔在一起了。


Did Yaumcha ever cheat on Bulma?
问:乐平曾做过对不起布尔玛的事?
This is one of the most disputed topics in B/V fandom, and usually, once you've picked a side, it's very hard to change your opinion. There are people who say he did and others who say he didn't, and I doubt that there will be a resolution anytime soon.
答:在布贝fans中,这是最有争议的话题之一;通常情况下,一旦选择了一方,你的看法就很难转变过来了。有些人说他做过而另一些人说他没做过,我觉得这都快变成一场固执的争吵了。
However, I want to first make it known that the bad rap that Yaumcha receives in a lot of fanfiction is undeserving (and I'm talking B/V get togethers - not A/U's - in A/U's you can do whatever you want ;p). Yaumcha is NOT a rapist, woman beater or drunk. Neither is Bulma a meek little angel who would sit back and take that kind of crap.
不过,我首先要说的是,许多fans把乐平说得很坏,其实没必要(我指的是布贝fans的说法而非A/U——如果是A/U你什么也做不了;p)。乐平不是强奸犯,不是花花公子更不是酒鬼——当然布尔玛也不是个温柔可爱的小天使。
(译注:我实在不知道“A/U”是指什么,只好直接放上去;不过看起来也是两个人名的缩写……)
In the beginning of DBZ, Bulma talks about Yaumcha and another woman when she and Krillin go and pick him up from his baseball game. Before the androids arrive, we see Yaumcha ogling girls in an aerobics class - but that's all he seems to be doing, ogling! When Mirai Trunks comes, he tells Goku that Yaumcha had been unfaithful. Now, this is where the controversy comes in. Some people say that the Japanese word used was 'fickle' and others say it was 'unfaithful.' I have heard people insist it was 'fickle' while others 'confirmed' it was 'unfaithful.' So go ahead and take your pick. There are other controversies and everyone has their own theories of what happened, and since one side is not going to sway the other side any time soon, I'll just leave it at that.
在龙珠Z开头,布尔玛和小林把乐平从棒球比赛里揪出来的时候,提到过乐平和另一个女人在一起。在人造人到来之前(译注:指三年准备时),我们看到乐平在一家健身房里色迷迷地看女孩——不过,他似乎没有进一步的行动,只是色迷迷地看看罢了!未来大特到来时,对悟空说乐平朝三暮四。这就是此话题分歧之所在。有些人说日语原文是“薄情”,另一些人说应该是“朝三暮四”。我听到有些人坚持说是“薄情”而另一些人认定是“朝三暮四”!既然这样还是坚持你自己的意见吧。很多时候就是这样,每个人对所发生的事都有自己的看法,没那么容易让意见统一起来,我也只好放弃这个问题了。


Is there really a bond? Where did it come from?
问:真的有“联系”吗?来自哪里?
(译注:此问应与Nora的龙珠同人《The Third Bond》有关,此文已由Range译为中文,“bond”一词译为“联系”,本文沿用此译法。《The Third Bond》中写道,塞亚人一生可能与其他人建立的只有三种联系。通常情况下只能看到其中的一种,也有一些人拥有两种,但第三种,却很少,非常少……第一种是和敌人之间的联系,第二种是战斗的伙伴,第三种则是和伴侣。大家如有兴趣可发信索要该译文,Range大的信箱是rangeld@163.net)
The bond has become a staple in B/V fanfiction and many believe that it was in fact, invented in fanfiction - but that is only part true. In 1995, a writer going by the pen name 'Katchan,' started her ambitious 50 chapter 'Saiyajin,' it was her ""Dragonball withdrawal whim."" I believe she was the first to give the bond its name, and it further inspired Nora Jemison's 'The Third Bond.'
答:“联系”来源于布贝fans的创作,许多人相信那是真的——不过更确切地说,只有部分真实。有个笔名为Katchan的作者从1995年开始了她足有五十章的长篇大作《Saiyajin》,那是她对龙珠世界的设想。我认为她是第一个冠以“联系”一词的人,Nora Jemison的龙珠同人《The Third Bond》就是从她那里得到的灵感。
Now, were Bulma and Vegeta ever truly bonded in the Anime? Though it was never clearly stated as a bond, Bulma and Vegeta had a deep connection that was the basis for this. When Vegeta sacrificed himself to Buu, Bulma immediately sensed something was wrong, even though she wasn't near him. Fanfiction has further romanticized this by including telepathy or the sharing of memories etc. as part of the bonding process. While that is just an interpretation of what my have happened, it's more based on fact than fanfiction (hurray ^_^). 布尔玛和贝吉塔在过去真的建立了“联系”吗?尽管“联系”没有一个明确的定义,不过布贝之间的确存在着令人费解的关系。当贝吉塔为对付布欧而牺牲自己时,虽然布尔玛距离他很远,但能立刻感觉到有什么东西不对头了。同人小说使它更加浪漫化,比如说成心灵感应或记忆共存什么的。这似乎是“联系”的部分表现。我这么解释我所发现的东西,它应该比那些同人小说更接近于事实(呵呵^_^)。


Ok, so what about this biting thing that usually comes with a bond?
问:通常会有什么刺激的事情伴随“联系”发生呢?
Along with the bonding, a bite on the neck is usually involved with Bulma and Vegeta romances. Unlike bonding, the bitemark has no concrete basis on the anime. I believe biting was first used in either 'Saiyajin' or 'The Third Bond' or perhaps both. I believe one rumour was that the reason Bulma wore those scarves in the Buu Saga was to cover up her Saiyan hickey ;p! Over the years though, the bitemark has come to symbollize a number of things like ownership, marriage etc. and I'm sure that B-Chan's 'Lemon Chapters' had a hand in that.
答:伴随着“联系”,布贝浪漫史常会有些棘手但很刺激的事发生。不同于“联系”,刺激不是一种具体的东西。我认为“刺激”一词最先用于《Saiyajin》或《he Third Bond》,又或者这两篇文都用过。我比较相信这样一个传言:布尔玛之所以在布欧篇总戴着丝巾,是为了掩饰她的赛亚丈夫留下的吻痕;p!虽然过了许多年,但那痕迹依然是所有者或婚姻生活之类的象征。我确信B-Chan的龙珠同人《Lemon Chapters》正缘于此。
Thanks to Lisalu for pointing out that biting is an animalistic thing that big cats do to mark their mates. The nose and chin bite/kiss is also something cats do and also was used in the earlier works mentioned above.
感谢Lisalu指出了“刺激”的含义,原来它是带有色情意味的。(译注:下面似乎用猫做比喻,可是我没看懂,就省略掉了)


Do Bulma and Vegeta love each other?
问:布尔玛和贝吉塔彼此相爱吗?
Oh absolutely, otherwise there would be no point to my page ;p. However, their love didn't just happen automatically, it grew over time. When they first came together and had Trunks I'm sure there were some feelings from both parties involved and maybe the beginnings of love, but not complete and unconditional love. Well, maybe there was love on Bulma's part since I do believe Mirai Bulma loved Mirai Vegeta, but I don't think Vegeta knew what love was and therefore couldn't embrace it. Lust was a major part of it, I'm sure, but I think there was a little bit more as well. Sure, Vegeta stated that Bulma was beautiful, but he also acknowledged she had courage (something cut out of the stupid dub), and he let her talk back at him and try and order him around without blowing her away.
答:哦……说真的,我这个话题没有什么寓意;p。不管怎么样,他们之间的爱情绝不是自动产生的,而是随着时间的流逝而慢慢显现。我敢肯定,他们最初在一起并有了特兰克斯的时候,两个人应该都有那种感觉了,也许开始相爱了,但那还不是真正意义上的爱。也许在布尔玛那一边可以确定是爱(自从我相信未来的布尔玛确实爱着未来的贝吉塔以后),可我不认为贝吉塔会明白什么是爱,当然也不会接受了——我想还是性欲占了主导地位。的确,贝吉塔承认布尔玛挺漂亮,但他也曾当众说过她很有勇气(笨蛋配音剪掉了什么情节),而且他容忍布尔玛和他顶嘴甚至命令他,也没有把布扔出去。
(译注:后面几句根据TV版,在弗利萨父子到达地球时布尔玛也跑来,贝吉塔曾说“本来只是个低级的女人,没想到还挺有胆量”;贝吉塔在重力室练功过度,布尔玛曾和他顶嘴;布尔玛也曾命令过贝吉塔去洗澡,小贝就是这么换上那件粉红色的衬衫^_^)
After the Cell games, Vegeta settled back in with Bulma and lived with her and Trunks in peace for seven years until the Buu saga. Ahh, the wonderful Buu Saga where we see how much Vegeta's character has grown since we first met him in the beginning of DBZ. Just before Vegeta sacrifices his life to try and destroy Buu, he hugs Trunks and tells him to take care of his mother. Then, just before he blows himself up, he says goodbye to ""Bulma, Trunks and you too Kakarrotto."" Such a beautiful scene and Bulma senses something is wrong (see bond above ^_^), and when she learns that Vegeta is dead she is heartbroken and cries. We see Vegeta's jealous side later when Goku tries to bribe Dai-Kaio-Shin into letting them use the Namek Dragonballs, promising he could get naked pictures of a woman who's ""old but still tight"" (according to my sub ;p) - which meant Bulma. Vegeta was of course not pleased and the reaction is very hilarious. Anyways, when Bulma hears Vegeta's voice talking down to earth and realizes he's alive, she yells out ""Vegeta I love you"" so feelings on her part are obvious. As for Vegeta, well the translated title of the episode of his sacrifice is ""For the Sake of My Loved ones . . . Vejita Falls!!!"" I think that answers the question ^_^!
沙鲁游戏过后,贝吉塔与布尔玛还有特兰克斯一起平静地生活了七年,直到布欧篇开始。啊哈,在奇妙的布欧篇中我们可以看到,从在龙珠Z的开头第一次看见他到如今,贝吉塔的性格发生了多么巨大的变化。在贝吉塔与布欧同归于尽之前,他拥抱特兰克斯并告诉他要照顾好妈妈。然后,在牺牲前向“布尔玛、特兰克斯……还有,卡卡罗特”告别——多么美好的场面呀!布尔玛感觉到什么东西不对劲(请看上面提过的“联系”^_^),当听到贝吉塔的死讯时她悲伤哭泣。当悟空为了能够使用那美克星的龙珠而企图贿赂老界王神,许诺他会搞到一个“虽然年纪大了点儿但还很性感”的女人的写真集时——当然是指布尔玛——我们就看到了贝吉塔吃醋的一面。贝吉塔当然不高兴,反应很强烈。还有,当布尔玛听到贝吉塔对地球下指令的声音时,证实了他还活着,便喊出“贝吉塔我爱你”——在她这一边是何感情显而易见。至于贝吉塔那边,他牺牲的那段情节标题是“为了所爱的人,贝吉塔魂飞魄散”;我想这已经为该问题做出了答复^_^!


When did Vegeta leave Bulma to become a Super Saiyan?
问:贝吉塔是什么时候离开布尔玛并变成超级赛亚人的?
Hmmm, ok, this answer will be pure speculation so you can agree with me or not. When Bulma met the Z-fighters the day the Androids were supposed to attack, she didn't know where Vegeta was, but knew he would be there. It's possible she hadn't seen him since he went to space but it's not certain. Vegeta knew his son's name was Trunks when he finally joined the others, so once again, it is possible he didn't leave Bulma until after Trunks was born (in fact that could be the reason he went to train in space - though it's not certain). Keep in mind that Trunks was nearing the age of 1 when the Androids attacked, so if Vegeta returned from space before Trunks' birth and was already a Super Saiyan, how many believe that Vegeta would NOT train as a Super Saiyan for several months? I ask this because the other fighters (at least Goku) would have sensed he had become a Super Saiyan, and wouldn't have been surprised when he turned into one when he comes to help with the Androids. Vegeta is not the type to suppress his lifetime goal for numerous months no matter what the reason. He would be out there gloating and probably challenging Goku to a fight. Anyway, that's why I believe Vegeta left Bulma after Trunks was born.
答:厚厚……这个答案纯粹是我个人猜测,你同不同意都行。人造人即将进攻那天,布尔玛与Z战士(译注:指龙珠Z里的战士;所谓龙珠Z,包括从拉蒂兹来地球到打败布欧这几大段情节)见面,她不知道贝吉塔在哪里,但确定他会来的。这可能说明自从贝吉塔去宇宙修炼后她就再没见过——可这种说法不准确,因为当贝吉塔后来加入战斗时他知道他儿子的名字是特兰克斯……所以我们再推测,也许特兰克斯出生后他才离开布尔玛(事实上那可能是他去宇宙修炼的原因——虽然并不确定)。记住,人造人攻击时特兰克斯还不到一岁,这么看来特兰克斯出生前贝吉塔就从宇宙回来了,并已经变成超级赛亚人……有多少人是这样认为的?贝吉塔不会以超级赛亚人状态再修炼几个月?我这么问是因为其他的战士(至少悟空)应该能感觉到他已经变成了超级赛亚人,也就不会在后来贝吉塔参加战斗时变身那一刻显得那么惊讶了。贝吉塔也不是那种能抑制去挑战目标对手的意图而无所事事地呆上几个月的人,他会得意洋洋,说不定马上就去和悟空一决高下呢!总之,我认为贝吉塔是在特兰克斯出生后离开布尔玛的。
(译注:TV版中,贝吉塔是在宇宙中修炼进而变成超级赛亚人的,不是在重力室里。)


How old are Bulma and Vegeta?
问:布尔玛和贝吉塔的年龄?
I got this information from some official timeline (I think it was first printed in a Daizenshuu), and while you can find it all over the net, I used the one from pojo.com.
答:我从一些官方站点中得到了资料(我认为它最初是印在Daizenshuu上),现在网上到处都是,我这份来自pojo.com。
Vegeta was born in the Dragonball year 732 AD and Bulma in 733 AD (making him one year older than her). In 762 AD, Vegeta lands on earth; he is 30, Bulma 29. Bulma gives birth to Trunks in 766 AD, when she's 33 and Vegeta is 34. When training for the Cell games, Vegeta goes into the Room of Spirit and Time twice, therefore aging him 2 years, and becoming 3 years older than Bulma. Bra was born either in 778 or 780 AD (the timeline has her one year younger than Pan, but in the same Daizenshuu, I believe it was mentioned that Bra was one year older; meaning there's a conflict). So Bulma is either 46 or 48 (doesn't she look good for a woman of her age, not to mention that she also had a baby), and Vegeta is either 49 or 51. The DBZ series ends in 784 AD with Vegeta at 55 and Bulma at 52.
贝吉塔生于公元732年(龙珠纪年),布尔玛生于733年(贝比布大一岁)。762年,贝吉塔到达地球;他30岁,布尔玛29岁。766年特兰克斯出生,那时布33岁,贝34岁。为沙鲁游戏进行修炼,贝吉塔曾两次进入“精神和时间的房子”,在里面度过两年,所以比布尔玛大三岁。普娜生于778或780年(那个站上说她比佩佩小一岁,但我想Daizenshuu里提过普娜是大一岁的;这显然是个矛盾)。所以布尔玛应该是46岁或48岁(以这个年龄的女性而论,她不是保养得很好吗?更不要说她已经生过一个孩子了),贝吉塔则是49岁或51岁。龙珠Z系列于784年结束,贝55岁,布52岁。


Are Bulma and Vegeta actually married?
问:布尔玛和贝吉塔结婚了吗?
Vegeta has referred to Bulma as his wife a couple of times in the series, but what that term means to him may not go by our traditional definition. We see no actual ceremony or hear of any mention of a marriage between the two, and since Vegeta is an alien and was not raised on earth, it's possible a different type of 'ceremony' was preformed. There is no definite answer to this question.
答:在这个系列中贝吉塔曾提及布尔玛是他的妻子(译注:就是小贝对悟空发飙那次,因为悟空要送布尔玛写真集给老界王神),但那对他来说可能不属于我们传统上的定义。我们没看到过什么结婚仪式,也没听到谁提及那两个人的婚礼,而且贝吉塔是外星人没受过地球的教育,也许已经举行了另一种不同类型的仪式呢!这个问题没有确切的答案。


Which episodes have memorable Bulma and Vegeta moments?
问:哪些有关布贝的情节比较难忘?
Currently Under Construction. If you have any to add, please contact me.
答:通常是这些,如果你想添加其它的,请与我联系。
124 The Warrior Race Saiya-jin's King Gravity room episode
第124回 题目:赛亚人之王 情节:重力室事件
237 For the Sake of My Loved Ones . . . Vejita Falls Vegeta's sacrifice to destroy Buu
第237回 题目:为了所爱的人,贝吉塔魂飞魄散 情节:贝吉塔与布欧同归于尽


(擦汗……这是凌心的“处女翻”,就当英译汉练习吧!)

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1685 1673 15 绿月迦蓝 11 凌心啊~~辛苦啦~(拥抱一下^^)不过原作者是谁?好像没有见过~~她提到的那几篇文我也只看过你给我的那篇,其它的你看过吗?感觉如何? 03-5-14 10:08:36
1689 1673 15 凌心 4 "原作者adimra是一布贝专题站的站长网址
http://www.adimra.100megs6.com/
你好象没见过?汗……如果你见过我会很吃惊的(因为好像没听你说起过看国外龙珠同人)-_-|||……我也只看过那篇译过来的,其他所提及的,别说看了,找都没找到,TT……只好看以后是否有机会继续找~~~~~
还有啊,我发现这么做英译汉练习不错呢!既有兴趣又是学习英语(考试中有英译汉这项啦!而且对阅读理解也有帮助^_^),所以有意继续,呵呵……你文笔好心思细,以后帮我改改译得不好的地方,可以吗?" 03-5-14 11:10:05
1690 1673 15 红色晨曦 5 辛苦凌心大人了,让我看到怎么多幕后故事。布贝FANS真是强啊 03-5-14 11:14:30
1691 1673 15 红色晨曦 5 关于贝吉塔是否爱布尔玛,这是个问题,是个问题…… 03-5-14 11:19:04
1708 1673 15 绿月迦蓝 11 "TO:凌心~~
当然没有问题啦~~只要你翻译出原文,我做校对就行了~~想偶的英文那么烂,也只能做做校对的工作了T_T~~如果你有新翻译的作品要我改的,发到我的邮箱,然后在QQ上留个言给我就行了~~~:)" 03-5-14 16:57:32
1712 1673 15 红色晨曦 5 "我有问题, 我来补充
大特和贝吉塔从精神与时间房间出来的时候,布尔玛也来了(开着飞机来,不要金箍棒了吗?一处BUG)贝吉塔很生气地问她来做什么。这里有两层意思:一是我们男人做的事,女人插什么手(这句话好中国)二是责怪布不应该在这么危险的情况下到处乱跑^_^以前看的时候只看出了前一层
问题是:布贝的身高?" 03-5-15 11:55:01
1725 1673 15 绿月迦蓝 11 "开着飞机来,不要金箍棒了吗?——其实这个是可以解释得通的,当时加林仙人告诉大家的是上神仙那里不可以用交通工具,“不然会被挡下来”,真实的情况大概是神仙用自己的力量做的吧,或者是波波先生。但到了后来精神和时间的房子时,大家都乱熟一把的了~~自然就可以特例啦:)所以布尔玛就直接开飞机上来了~~呵呵,不知偶的解释晨曦桑满意吗^^
至于布贝的身高,偶记得以前看过的一份资料说,是布尔玛比小贝稍高一点点~~汗bbb" 03-5-16 9:07:17
1729 1673 15 红色晨曦 5 "后期的神仙屋简直成了孙悟空一伙的后院了。。。。。。
有人估计布是165cm(还夸她是标准女性身材),贝是168cm,不过我也觉得布似乎高一点点。只怪他两在一个格子的画面太少了,目测极不准确啊" 03-5-16 15:57:03

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发表于 2004-11-10 12:05 | 显示全部楼层

看到这么详细的解说真的好感动啊~~~~~~~太感谢翻译的大人了

好多有疑问的地方,在这篇文文中有了参考呢 。


发表于 2004-11-24 16:28 | 显示全部楼层

非常详细的解释!!

其实龙珠中 贝 与 布 的结合具有必然性


发表于 2005-3-26 15:22 | 显示全部楼层

翻得好支持支持!!!


发表于 2005-4-8 19:29 | 显示全部楼层

我快晕了.不过看下来还真不错


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